DSI MEETING : 2005.03.08

EncrypteData> alright meeting started...
* metadrop has joined #Data-Storm
metadrop> i lub u
trusolja> whats on teh agenda.
EncrypteData> first off... the forum... should be triple the amount of people signed up by now
metadrop> kill someone
metadrop> for stelaing my boxes
EncrypteData> I'm really dissapointed
metadrop> me 2
metadrop> sorry ill shut up
* metadrop has quit IRC
trusolja> ...
EncrypteData> Why do you think no one is using the forum as they should?
trusolja> No clue ed.
EncrypteData> even you guys haven't posted much... some more than others
neonomicus> because to few ppl are registred
EncrypteData> no one has really spread the word cept me...
EncrypteData> if it is going to be a success... you need to spread the word
neonomicus> me, too. I made some advertise on orkut and bugtraq
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* nonane waves to david
EncrypteData> neo you have brought more people to DSI than any other member
* zeegler waves
* zeegler goes afk
EncrypteData> and for that I thank you
neonomicus> thx :)
EncrypteData> you're doing great work
EncrypteData> but we gotta push the forum more... I want to see more posting from everyone...
EncrypteData> people keep asking me questions ... tech stuff
nonane> yeah, he actually paid for a license for vBulletin
EncrypteData> I send them to the forum to post it... then I respond
eonomicus> I started a few tgreads and noone answers
zeegler> i have a vB3 license too
EncrypteData> and then they get more responses too... or at least they wait for em
EncrypteData> but alot of times... I only respond
zeegler> hey
zeegler> ill make ya a deal
zeegler> ill help
zeegler> if someone fixes my slow generation routines
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neonomicus> hi :)
Discipulus> alright
EncrypteData> welcome disc
Discipulus> now wth do ya'll need?
EncrypteData> opinions
EncrypteData> what do you think of DSI's forum
nonane> www.data-storm.com/forum to the visually inept
EncrypteData> why isn't it growing as quickly as we expected
Discipulus> dunno haven't been there in forever
EncrypteData> and why is that
zeegler> because its useless
zeegler> and theres like 5000 forums
zeegler> we get 3500 uniques/day and we have like 6 forums..
zeegler> try it, it works
Discipulus> I dunno, I see no purpose for the forum
neonomicus> we don't have many users but we're pretty high quality. No stupid "how to hack msn" threads
Discipulus> there's already plenty out there
Discipulus> and if I wanna talk to someone, I'll do it on AIM or Y!
zeegler> same
zeegler> or irc :P
nonane> irc? what's that *cough* :)
Discipulus> no sense in loading a website to see it.
EncrypteData> well a forum has a completely different use than irc or msn, etc
tGoM> i like teh forums, cept the amount of topics, but i've asked about that already
zeegler> you need to drop like 90 of your forums
zeegler> and then it may actually grow
nonane> yeah, i think it's TOO specific
neonomicus> tu much to scroll
nonane> perhaps you should broaden your categories
tGoM> too much to keep updated with
EncrypteData> alright... we'll tighten it up a bit
EncrypteData> any other comments, suggestions?
zeegler> not a bit
zeegler> if you want users
tGoM> images in sigs
zeegler> you cut it down to like 8 forums
tGoM> j/k Ed =P
zeegler> ok well we have 11
nonane> yeah not like php,perl,asp,javascript
nonane> but like Programming - Web
nonane> Programming - Linux
nonane> like that?
zeegler> why would you have a forum for "The News"
EncrypteData> I'll shorten it to Scripting, Database, etc
zeegler> thats useless
neonomicus> good idea
zeegler> delete it
EncrypteData> instead of whole sections
zeegler> The hacker culture
zeegler> delete it
Discipulus> lol
zeegler> Operating Systems
zeegler> change it to
zeegler> Windows, Unix
zeegler> Mac
zeegler> delete the rest
zeegler> Programming
zeegler> who the fuck uses pascal
zeegler> or cobalt
zeegler> or any of these other shitty languages
zeegler> make it
nonane> i used B one time
neonomicus> and we need to find a way that makes it possible for every member to post news
zeegler> C, VB, PHP, ASP, Other
zeegler> news shouldnt be done in forums
zeegler> make an xml reader and just parse news feeds
EncrypteData> we're gonna get the news later neo
neonomicus> if noone visits the forum because it's to huge noone will see the news :(
neonomicus> ok
zeegler> trust me
zeegler> take all my ideas to heart
EncrypteData> data-storm.org is set aside for the news division
EncrypteData> >; )
zeegler> just give me vB access
zeegler> and ill go fix your forums
EncrypteData> hah
zeegler> and get a new domain
nonane> i still think it should be news.data-storm.com
zeegler> data storm sounds gay
zeegler> no offense
trusolja> okay.
* Looking up zeegler user info...
nonane> no tom
nonane> just let him talk
nonane> i invited him
neonomicus> if you're german it sounds cool :D
zeegler> yes, im a genius
zeegler> half of these forums are useless
zeegler> i dont even understand why peeople have posted in some of them
Discipulus> lol
Discipulus> BURN
zeegler> if you want a site like this
zeegler> you need a catchy name
EncrypteData> right...
zeegler> not "Data Storm Industries"
EncrypteData> lol
neonomicus> like what?
EncrypteData> we're not here to discuss the name
zeegler> im here to discuss whatever i please
zeegler> you wanted comments
EncrypteData> Zeegler Elves sound better?
zeegler> ..
* nonane laffs.
* zeegler is now known as zeeg
Discipulus> well that's what we are discussing
Discipulus> so boo-ya
zeeg> Should I point out the successful websites I've run?
EncrypteData> anyways
zeeg> that didnt have 90 forum topics
Discipulus> lol
EncrypteData> I wanna bring up that suidroot is operational now
ncrypteData> fully
nonane> nice
EncrypteData> you should all check it out and sign up
Discipulus> I wanna ask wtf am I doing here?
nonane> if anyone can beat me, i'll host you
zeeg> ill sign up if you paypal me $50
* Timer 1 activated
* EncrypteData sets mode: +b *!*@main049.ppp.rockriver.net
* Timer 1 halted
* Discipulus was kicked by EncrypteData (EncrypteData)
EncrypteData> and no nonane... it is not a competition
nonane> i know
nonane> just a bit of fun
EncrypteData> you should want every DSI member to do just as well
EncrypteData> =P
nonane> i do
nonane> but they all suck :\
zeeg> i agree
zeeg> you all suck :P
neonomicus> yes I suck :)
trusolja> I don't like this cockyness.
nonane> only person that is higher than me is ed, and w0rm of course
* Retrieving #Data-Storm modes...
zeeg> trusolja, you'll live
* EncrypteData sets mode: +v trusolja
tGoM> i'm not a member, can i still be considered to suck?
* EncrypteData sets mode: +v HackMan
* EncrypteData sets mode: +v neonomicus
* EncrypteData sets mode: +v tGoM
nonane> tGoM you suck in a good way
nonane> did you signup?
* EncrypteData sets mode: +mt
tGoM> yay 4 me
EncrypteData> right
EncrypteData> anyways
* zeeg has quit IRC
nonane> there went about 50,000+hits/day
EncrypteData> yeah ok
trusolja> nonane
trusolja> shut up
trusolja> Your friend is a cocky bitch.
nonane> www.wowguru.com
trusolja> He deserves to be on msn with those kids.
EncrypteData> that's fine
EncrypteData> ok ok stop
neonomicus> oh dear, a gaming site
neonomicus> ok
EncrypteData> no one talk bad about anyone else
EncrypteData> back to business
nonane> may i point out
nonane> http://www.wowguru.com/forums/
EncrypteData> no one cares
EncrypteData> the whole world is gamers... not hackers
neonomicus> right
EncrypteData> our forum is much harder to maintain and spread
EncrypteData> any fool with an xbox can make a huge gaming forun
EncrypteData> so on to next topic
EncrypteData> forum topic closed
neonomicus> 100% of the gamers are gamers, but only 10% of the hackers are hackers
EncrypteData> how many of you have tried suidroot?
neonomicus> what's next?
neonomicus> me
nonane> i have
EncrypteData> what do you think of it?
trusolja> I tried a long time ago when it was first created.
nonane> it's alright
nonane> needs a lot more challenges
EncrypteData> I agree
EncrypteData> I might do a Deceptorz division for him
EncrypteData> all essay answers
EncrypteData> Deceptorz = Social Engineering
* phiber has joined #Data-Storm
* EncrypteData sets mode: +v phiber
EncrypteData> welcome phiber
phiber> Better late than never?
EncrypteData> =)
EncrypteData> Phiber might be joining DSI from Cyber Mafia soon
EncrypteData> up to him
phiber> Yeah, still trying to figure out who has the best retirement plan...
EncrypteData> =)
EncrypteData> well CM is jail bound
EncrypteData> heh
trusolja> wheres DSI's 401k plan?
EncrypteData> so *shrugs*
phiber> So, three square meals a day, a nice bed to sleep in, some internet...
nonane> *erases phibers last statement*
nonane> HIGH SPEED
EncrypteData> yea *cough*
phiber> Jail wouldn't be that bad, except for the butt raping... ;\
EncrypteData> o_0
EncrypteData> right
EncrypteData> ok
EncrypteData> lol
phiber> lol
neonomicus> ^^
EncrypteData> ok so I wanna see more of you on suidroot representing DSI
EncrypteData> that means you neo and trusolja
EncrypteData> =P
neonomicus> Is my account deleted?
EncrypteData> dunno
EncrypteData> on to next topic
EncrypteData> the news
EncrypteData> this could be a huge thing for us if we do it right
phiber> So, have we figured out how diable the alt key? I was in the process of fiddling with it, I had a bad calculation and thought this meeting was at ten tonight..
phiber> Excuse my butting in
phiber> ;D
EncrypteData> we al had bad calcs.. lol... but not that bad
EncrypteData> lol
neonomicus> have not been able to figure out how to disable it :(
EncrypteData> Phiber would be helping you with C++ projects if he joins
EncrypteData> he's working on finding a solution
trusolja> I have a suggestion neonomicus
trusolja> for it..
EncrypteData> PM's work best for suggestions >; D
HackMan> 0.o
nonane> ahem
nonane> don't mean to intrude, but how many of you have AIM/MSN
EncrypteData> the news section... obviously we all need access to post news
nonane> EncrypteData, if you want, i can code a custom news posting thingie, i'm already halfway done with one.
EncrypteData> nonane before said he could design something for it...
* EncrypteData looks at nonane
EncrypteData> >=)
phiber> ha
* EncrypteData taps foot...
nonane> *cough*
* phiber ponders
EncrypteData> well?
nonane> scroll up
EncrypteData> for?
nonane> i'm shit with design
nonane> but code i can do
nonane> trusolja would probably be a better designer for the layout
EncrypteData> ok... well who wants to work on the news section with nonane (in harmony (that might leave out trusolja))
EncrypteData> >; )
* nonane hears crickets..
EncrypteData> heh
phiber> Are we going to do a RSS type feed or will it be just manually updated?
neonomicus> I need help with coding projects!
neonomicus> school is eating me up
EncrypteData> they're in my scorpion tank sorry...
nonane> i'll try to make a rss feeder
phiber> I personally think a RSS feeder would be easy to maintain
nonane> http://nonane.org/files/img/paidsurfingindeed.jpg
phiber> Unless you did a cutenews"ish" program
nonane> i was gonna customize a version of PHPnews
phiber> Nice nonane...
EncrypteData> so do it
nonane> until it got hacked the other day through ?pollname=
EncrypteData> I hear alot of people saying... I was gonna do this... or gonna do that...
EncrypteData> as Master Yoda Said... Do or do not... there is no try.
EncrypteData> So do it
tGoM> i'm still planing to stab everyone in the world with a fork ;x
EncrypteData> ok then do it
nonane> alright, i'll need db/cpanel access
phiber> I was going to get a life...
tGoM> k-mart, they're on sale for 9.99
phiber> They I heard they had to close after they had a sale of boy pants for half off, I guess michael Jackson came in and made a huge uproar...
phiber> Minus the they ;x
EncrypteData> heh
EncrypteData> trusolja
EncrypteData> can you work on the news engine and design with nonane?
trusolja> yea
EncrypteData> ok
phiber> I'll help with news updates
EncrypteData> alright
EncrypteData> good way to get news... sign up for like every zine and newsletter thats out for tech stuff
nonane> or
nonane> http://it.slashdot.org
phiber> OR
nonane> just rip it from their feeders
trusolja> hackwire.com
phiber> make some of our own stuff up
phiber> =D
* EncrypteData smacks phiber
phiber> no
phiber> I meant
EncrypteData> no hacking the FBI for news
nonane> Windows XP3 released - click here to download!
phiber> Why hack when I have access to SiPRNET
phiber> =D
EncrypteData> alllrighty then
nonane> marx;;; says:
nonane> do breathalyzers see if ur smoking
nonane> marx;;; says:
nonane> or just alcahol
nonane> ...... . suidroot/xl-firstlt . says:
nonane> just alcohol
nonane> marx;;; says:
nonane> *phew*
nonane> marx;;; says:
nonane> i could almost kiss u right now nigg
EncrypteData> as for new member recruits... tGom and Phiber... you are both welcome whenever you want
EncrypteData> nonane... I don't think that has anything to do with the meeting... keep it out
phiber> haha
tGoM> and i have to do what to qualify?
nonane> just thought it was humorous
nonane> hey ed, will you put up papers?
EncrypteData> tGoM even if you're not an instant asset... you're time will come to contribute
EncrypteData> =)
nonane> Oh, my final butt-in, http://www.linuxense.com/challenge/
tGoM> alright i'll be one o you r bishes
EncrypteData> lol
EncrypteData> ok
EncrypteData> we'll discuss details later after the meeting
EncrypteData> but welcome to DSI
EncrypteData> =)
* nonane claps..
* phiber shakeshand as if he had something to do with it
phiber> lD
EncrypteData> ok well I'm removing TweaK from the crew listing...
EncrypteData> and krod
EncrypteData> just so you know
EncrypteData> TweaK has been DSI since it was founded...
EncrypteData> but he has no time... no time to even be in this room apparently
phiber> Why are you removing him?
phiber> Oh, okay...
EncrypteData> he was my most trusted member... and now also my biggest letdown
neonomicus> who will be the next vice?
EncrypteData> and krod... well... krod can keep hanging out with the 13 year old Oceanius kiddies
EncrypteData> www.data-storm.com/oceanius.swf
phiber> ROFL
EncrypteData> to commemorate this great momemnt
EncrypteData> >; )
nonane> k
nonane> moving on
nonane> (that was just wrong)
EncrypteData> I do need to give a quick lesson in ethics per request...
EncrypteData> heh
EncrypteData> trusolja...
phiber> ethics?
nonane> what are those? *g*
phiber> Like no tearing up phpBBs of bands you hate?
EncrypteData> do not try and screw around with anyone's site that is within our circle
nonane> awww
nonane> you screw with mine, i screw your isp
EncrypteData> by that I mean CM, WifiHackers, SuidRoot, etc etc
trusolja> wtf
EncrypteData> if you want to know if it secure... ask them... I'm sure they will gladly let you look at their coding
phiber> You screw with mine, then no one will care about my existance...
EncrypteData> BoA was not pleased with you're actions yesterday one bit... so I told him I would bring it up
neonomicus> :D
EncrypteData> but we already discussed this... so on to next one
nonane> why? what happened?
EncrypteData> that brings me to nonane
nonane> eh?
phiber> Wasn't me.
EncrypteData> no one at all was especially pleased with how you handled yourself yesterday
EncrypteData> BoA knows what he's doing
nonane> i'm sure he does
nonane> i'm just paranoid
EncrypteData> trying to force him to patch his shit... and telling him how... just makes you look ignorant
EncrypteData> and if my crew looks ignorant... how does that make me look?
EncrypteData> you are all representatives of DSI
nonane> lol, you still look oogleh regardless, but i'm sorry about that
EncrypteData> I can't have people running around claiming to be Data Storm makin fools outta themselves
EncrypteData> MAIN reason I got rid of TTVersion
EncrypteData> and krod for that matter...
EncrypteData> I don't want to be associated with Oceanius
EncrypteData> anyways just watch what you say to people
trusolja> okay.
EncrypteData> cuz it always gets back to me eventually... sometimes a whiny little person... sometimes a pissed off admin
EncrypteData> but it gets back to me either way
phiber> So is there a list, like rule of engagement, or that sort of thing?
neonomicus> k, I most go now :( cu and gnight
EncrypteData> you sure?
EncrypteData> = P
neonomicus> 11pm
* phiber waves goodnight
EncrypteData> ok well we'll meet up later then
EncrypteData> goodnight
neonomicus> yo, cu
* neonomicus has quit IRC (Client exited)
EncrypteData> DSI has no enemies whatsoever, but alot of supporters
EncrypteData> okay maybe the Zeegler Elf is an enem now
EncrypteData> but I really don't care
EncrypteData> heh
nonane> no, he's not an enemy, he won't do shit
phiber> zeegler elf?
EncrypteData> you missed that part
EncrypteData> the meeting will be posted though
EncrypteData> so no worries
phiber> like the keebler elf? man i love those cookies
nonane> haha
phiber> ... Eh, guess not..
EncrypteData> pretty much this little elf guy came in and dissed everything to do with DSI... even the name
EncrypteData> so I took his voice away and he ran back to his treehouse
EncrypteData> to make some cookies
EncrypteData> ok so projects now...
EncrypteData> nonane and trusolja work on the news section... keep it professional looking and clean cut
EncrypteData> bright and pretty
EncrypteData> =)
tGoM> i'm doing a wallpaper, the most important project, ;x LoL
EncrypteData> if you're making banners and stuff... the domain is www.Data-Storm.org
EncrypteData> (also news.data-storm.com)
EncrypteData> one in the same
phiber> bright a pretty ?
tGoM> i'll prolly just tag it Data-Storm
EncrypteData> ok thats a start =)
tGoM> just in case there are changes in the future it will still be compatible
EncrypteData> oh
phiber> hackers aren't clean, bright and pretty...
EncrypteData> tgom the domain was for nonane and trusolja
tGoM> awww
EncrypteData> the main site is data-storm.com
EncrypteData> =)
tGoM> -sniffle- -tear- okay
trusolja> tGoM
EncrypteData> was talkin about them designing the news
trusolja> you should help nonane
tGoM> nah
tGoM> i'll let you do it trus
trusolja> you're a better designer then me
EncrypteData> phiber... we're not trying to appear as hackers or crackers... we're trying to look professional
EncrypteData> tech news, etc etc
tGoM> i have other projects i've already promised not to mention the guy i promised them to is on msn bugging me right now
EncrypteData> time to grow up and use your knowledge for good
nonane> we're looking to obtain the image of "programmers with signature and technique, not hackers"
EncrypteData> not to destroy lame phpBB sites
* phiber sniffs and stamps his feet
EncrypteData> what we do under the radar is different
* EncrypteData pats phibers head
EncrypteData> >; )
* tGoM dels "deface a few phpbb sites" from todo list
phiber> We owned big name Recording artists that SUCKED!
EncrypteData> heh
EncrypteData> ok good
phiber> Really who likes American Hi-Fi
phiber> ?
EncrypteData> who?
EncrypteData> lol
EncrypteData> we pwned Secuirty Box
EncrypteData> =)
phiber> Oh, and Ricky Martin.
phiber> =X
EncrypteData> ok so Phiber... you joining up or what
EncrypteData> lol
* phiber sighs
phiber> CM is dead
phiber> And I really don't see it coming back
EncrypteData> too much negative attention
EncrypteData> DSI goes for positive attention with the occasional we fucked you up cuz you're lame hacker posers
EncrypteData> heh
phiber> Yeah, and I believe you are more of a mature leader than kaptin, not to put him down or anything
EncrypteData> well you sleep on it if you're not sure
EncrypteData> ok last topic
nonane> being part of dsi doesn't mean you can't play around a bit, but you're expected to act mature
EncrypteData> any ideas on future projects and expansions?
nonane> dshred for linux
phiber> I want to know more about the
phiber> "project"
EncrypteData> =0
nonane> and "dsnap", a timed screenshot taker/uploader
EncrypteData> nonane you're furthest on DShred for linux
nonane> it's already done
nonane> i just need to brand it
EncrypteData> ok then do it
nonane> k
EncrypteData> it'll do until we do a GUI for it
EncrypteData> if we do
EncrypteData> DSnap eh?
EncrypteData> hm
nonane> yeah
EncrypteData> kinda for webcam but not purposes or spying purposes
EncrypteData> o_0
EncrypteData> or both
nonane> iunno
nonane> we'll get into it later
phiber> Yeah, I want something like that for my webcam
phiber> that would be nice
EncrypteData> is this something you want to make yourself? or just suggesting an idea
nonane> just suggesting
EncrypteData> can't be that hard
EncrypteData> I'm sure you could make it
nonane> nah i'm good, but not with vb
EncrypteData> ok
EncrypteData> any other ideas?
EncrypteData> speak up people
nonane> no more from me atm
* phiber ponders
EncrypteData> doesn't have to be projects as in programs
EncrypteData> could be expansion to the site
nonane> come on! out with it boy!
EncrypteData> I'm going to add a tools section in the Fun Stuff
EncrypteData> devide it to games and tools etc
nonane> Twister Spinner!!!
EncrypteData> like a whois... etc etc
EncrypteData> uhhh no
EncrypteData> denied
EncrypteData> =P
nonane> damn
EncrypteData> tGoM any ideas?
tGoM> just like whois, dns tools, stuff like that?
EncrypteData> yea
phiber> DSI RADIO =
EncrypteData> I've thought about that
tGoM> dnsstuff.com has a bunch of those i use a lot
phiber> I host a radio now
tGoM> dnsreport.com is pretty good for dns as well
phiber> But it uses winamp.
EncrypteData> ok thanks tGoM
trusolja> sorry if i don't answer
EncrypteData> it's ok
trusolja> i have 10 packages that went to the wrong address
trusolja> im trying to settle it
EncrypteData> we're pretty much done unless Phiber has an answer yet
EncrypteData> heh
phiber> Hey I said radio...
EncrypteData> I want to start doing meetings on a regular basis
EncrypteData> (I meant you joining)
EncrypteData> lol
phiber> Can we go with like EST
nonane> yes, seriously
nonane> mr 3pm
phiber> OR
EncrypteData> say... meetings on every 1st and 15th of every month
phiber> put a time zone chart on DSI
nonane> good idea phiber
phiber> ;D
EncrypteData> ok ok
EncrypteData> meeting every 1st and 15th sound reasonable?
EncrypteData> too much? not enough?
EncrypteData> feedback people =P
nonane> so meeting next week?
phiber> thats when I get PAID
phiber> woot woot
phiber> :D
nonane> that ok with everyone?
phiber> Once a week would be cool with me
EncrypteData> we can meet on the 15th just to check back on progress
nonane> it would have to be in the afternoon as i may start working midnight shifts
EncrypteData> what you think trusolja
trusolja> thats fine
EncrypteData> so 1st and 15th?
EncrypteData> agreed?
* phiber raises his hand and says "i"
EncrypteData> time we'll determine later
nonane> alright, ed, tom can do a strtotime() code to determine full dates for next meetings
EncrypteData> hell we could probably to a timer countdown on the site to countdown till next meetings
EncrypteData> =)
EncrypteData> we'll see
nonane> echo strtotime("10 September 2000"), "\n";
EncrypteData> ok so here's what I want to see worked on
EncrypteData> Nonane : work on the news section... design... code... etc
nonane> ok
EncrypteData> Trusolja : keep the IRCd running smoothly and help nonane where needed
EncrypteData> tGom : we'll discuss something things soon
trusolja> j
trusolja> k
tGoM> kk
EncrypteData> phiber : make up your mind... lol and keep looking for disable codes
phiber> lol
EncrypteData> I'm gonna shorten the forum down some and combine topics
nonane> hey idea, instead of disabling just one key, why not disable the whole keyboard
EncrypteData> can't
nonane> so no matter what keyboard someone puts in, they can't do anything
EncrypteData> the "project" involves entering data
nonane> ah
nonane> can't add a global hotkey with a hWnd return?
EncrypteData> errr no
EncrypteData> =P
nonane> or something with that damn StickyKeys thing
phiber> wait
phiber> tell me
phiber> something
EncrypteData> ?
EncrypteData> what
* nonane says "something"
phiber> thats what i know want to know, knowing what we are doing/ what it will do might help me figure something
phiber> look at it from a different angle
EncrypteData> ok we'll talk about it later
EncrypteData> everyone has something to do... keep me updated people
phiber> okay
EncrypteData> we'll meet back on the 15th... as always... hang out in here >; )
phiber> you mean idle in here?
phiber> ;X
nonane> you can talk too
phiber> haha okay
EncrypteData> lol
EncrypteData> meeting adjourned